Ep 4 – Interview with Will Hardin Creator of the Dr Will Bar

Ep 4 – Interview with Will Hardin Creator of the Dr Will Bar
Live Fit Podcast

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In this episode of the Live Fit Podcast, I interview Dr Will Harden. He is the creator of the Dr Will Bar, a delicious, nutrition food bar for snacks, small meals, athletics, and life. He is also an amateur bicycle racer, and a very passionate advocate of health promotion.

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Dr. Will Harden

Dr Will Harden began his Chiropractor practice in 1990 after graduating valedictorian of his class from National College of Chiropractic. This was preceded by a BA in Psychology and a BS in Biology. He has undertaken extensive post-graduate study in nutrition, neorophysiology and neuroanatomy, sports injuries, pain management and wellness care.

He has presented countless educational discussions/seminars concerning nutrition, alternative health approaches, lifestyle and stress management, self care, and applies all of these to his approach to patients. These have included several radio and TV appearances, and graduation keynote addresses.

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Never lacking in his enthusiasm for his profession and in the seeking ideal health, Dr. Will’s commitment to his professional development and to his patients is unparalleled.

His passion:

  • “To help people prolong their lives, and live a life of quality.”

His Motivation:

  • “You only gotta do a little.” When he doesn’t want to workout, he convinces himself to get in an easy 15 minutes on a bike while watching a show. This always leads to more as the exercise energizes him and he ends up feeling great.




Glenn: Today, I have Dr. Will Harden. He’s a chiropractor, exercise enthusiast, amateur cyclist, bike racer and the founder and creator of the Doctor Will Bar. Thank you, Will, for joining us today. Why don’t you start off by telling us a little bit about yourself?

Will: So my background, as you know I’m a chiropractor. That is my first love. I will discuss with you how the Doctor Will Bar came to be. But surprise to say I, as a chiropractor, absolutely love my career. So it began with the extremely love of human anatomy and physiology in high school. And at that point, I decided “Oh I definitely have to work with the human body. I want to be a doctor.” So what do you immediately go to? Well, you want to go to med school. So when I was an undergrad, I worked at a hospital as a phlebotomist, part-time while I was going through school. And within about a year to two years of doing that, I started seeing that there was a fundamental kind of a flaw, if you will, in the western medical system that did not appeal to me. And that is it really wasn’t health care; it was sickness care. It was symptom care.

So in the hospital, what I saw was people who were sick or dying were being medicated. Their symptoms were being managed. and I realized there has to be a better way. There has to be something more addressed toward prevention, wellness, health, nutrition, things that seemed rather obvious to prevent illness. So I looked into alternative primary healthcare, alternatives. And the first one that came to mind was chiropractic. So to learn more about it, I literally made an appointment with a chiropractor to find out what it is that they do. As it turns out, and this is kind of a –I don’t know – a divine intervention if you will. The day that I woke up for that appointment, I had an unbelievable pain between my shoulder blades.

Glenn: Wow.

Will: And at 23 years of age, that was something totally new and frightening to me. So I go to the chiropractor. I said “I made this appointment to about what you do but it turns out, something is really wrong in my spine. I have an unreal pain between my shoulder blades.” And I did not say it that gracefully. I was in a lot of pain.

So this chiropractor explained to me that he get a lot more than just crack backs to ease back pain but what he did was addressed spinal alignment issues to stimulate the nervous system and therefore, the health of the body. He examined and adjusted me. And honestly, it was as if the clouds parted, the raise of the sun shone down upon me. And I knew that that was meant what I was meant to do.

So within 3 months, I moved to Chicago where I went to Chiropractic College. I already completed all my pre-med studies. And the rest is history. It’s been an amazing adventure. It’s been a really deep process.

Glenn: Wow. That’s fantastic, Will. You know that’s kind of funny that you said how the clouds parted because every time I did an adjustment — and I can say this because I just now got one from you. And I feel 20 pounds lighter and I feel like I can move fitter and I can think better. And I’ve seen a lot of chiropractors before because I have kind of a structural back issue. And Will is by far the best one I’ve ever seen. There was one other guy down at LA that I like a lot but Will is even better than him. And best of all, I know chiropractors have a bad reputation for trying to get people to come in every other day for the rest of their lives. Will see you as much as he needs to. But his main focus is on wellness and repairing and he’ll give you things that you can do to help keep you in shape. And so I just wanted to reflect on something that you said. And after having an adjustment, I feel wonderful, totally fantastic when the adjustments needed of course. So I wanted to ask where you from originally.

Will: I was born and raised in Cincinnati, Ohio. And migrated up west after grad school just because of the desire to be integrated outdoors if you will. And I also was well aware that Portland was a city that had a really open mind, was much more open to non-Western medical traditional treatment modalities. And therefore, I moved directly from Chicago grad school to Oregon. So you said something I think it’s really worthy of discussion. And that is that some people say, “Oh you know those chiropractors. They just want you to keep coming back.”

Glenn: Right.

Will: But if you really understand what I do and how important that the alignment of that spinal column is, you would say well of course they do. So you have a stack of 25 independently movable bones that make up your spinal column. And those bones are weight bearing and they are there not just to hold you up. If they’re protectants around the spinal cord and the roots of the nerves that go to and control your arms, legs, heart, lungs, liver, stomach, spleen, everything works by way of the control of the nervous system, that is not a chiropractic theory. That is fact. Nervous system runs the show. We know that if you shift out of alignment in your spinal column that that disturbs the nerve root. By disturbed, I don’t mean it pinches the nerve; I mean it puts a little bit of compression, a little bit of irritation unto that nerve root.

But in 1975, the University of Colorado School of Medicine that was shown that the weight of a dime on the nerve root reduces the intensity of the impulses along that nerve by 40% after 3 minutes.

Glenn: Wow.

Will: And we know that a vertebral misalignment can put much more pressure on the nerve root and not even without causing back pain. So back pain is not in good measurement, a good determining factor as to whether or not you would benefit from having the spine adjusted because that misalignment is caused by postural strain, excessive time sitting at a desk or a computer, texting, driving, old injury, new injury, repetitive injury, the same hobby or the same profession and positions everyday, day in, day out, and that applies to essentially everyone. Even mental and emotional and chemical stresses can stress the system in a way that leads to misalignment. So my feeling is yes, everyone needs or benefits from chiropractic care. and anything less than a lifetime in chiropractic care is not enough to stay healthy.

Now I’m not making comment about frequency of care my being once a month. That’s fairly typical. A month’s worth of stress is more than enough to misaligned most people in a way that I can readily find and point out to the patient where I’m finding misalignment. And they always identify with that. They’ll say, “Yes, that’s really tender there. Now that you push on it, I didn’t even know it” or “Yes, I do have heart burn,” if I find a misalignment at T4 or T5. “Yes, I am having headaches,” if I find a misalignment called a subluxation at C1 or base of the skull.

So yes, it really is true. Chiropractors really do once you keep coming back but for you, not for me. If you don’t come back, that will not adversely affect my practice because there are plenty of people who do have pain and use pain as an indicator as to whether or not they should see a chiropractor. And then there’s another subset of my patient based who does once a month adjustment and says, “You know, I don’t get sick anymore. I don’t have GI issues anymore. My headaches are gone now.” So therefore, relative to that question, I think it’s a really important discussion to have.

Glenn: Wow that makes a lot of sense Will. Well, as you know my show in livefit is about ways to live your life fit, well, healthy, maintain body fat and just feel really good. And it sounds to me like chiropractic care is certainly fits in with that, that whole philosophy. Chiropractic’s seem to be locked in with the holistic and sort of the alternative medicine, what would you say to that? Are there any others that you – any of these called French medicine or alternative medicines – that you agree with that you think would be helpful for a person? Or is chiropractic the only one that somebody should really look into for other than Western Medicine?

Will: You know the truth is I would really be foolish to say that the one and only key to health is chiropractic because really a long, healthy life is dependent upon several factors. And I consider a properly aligned spine to be and therefore fully functional nervous system to be one of those factors. But other factors which are really to most people fairly obvious include sleep, for example there’s plenty of research that shows that less than 6 and a half hours of sleep per night adversely affect your longevity, how long you’re gonna live. Exercise. My god we could delve into a 6-hour discussion about the benefits of exercise because the list is long. Number one cure for depression. Best way to address insomnia, nothing more important other than diet for regulation of blood sugar, prevention of diabetes or pre-diabetes. The list of benefits of exercise is so long that certainly calls for another question or discussion. Adequate hydration, another really critical factor. We also get half our body weight in pounds in ounces of water per day to prevent dehydration. And dehydration does not mean you’re thirsty. That means you’re not taking adequate water to maintain properly functioned of everything from brain, to GI system to of course kidneys. But for example afternoon tiredness. So many people think that’s simply from working all day but that can be the first indication of dehydration.

Glenn: Right.

Will: Tiredness, simply because you don’t have enough fluid in your system for the cardiovascular system to function efficiently and therefore get adequate blood and oxygen into your brain so you get tired.

Mental status, emotional health, absolutely a critical aspect of your overall health. So you asked what other types of practitioners addressed more holistic care. No, chiropractic is not the only one.

Glenn: Uhum.

Will: A naturopath, generally it does extensive blood work, allergy testing, dietary consideration and uses primarily nutritional protocols to address your health by modifying your diet to eliminate allergens like gluten or dairy, will often do detoxes to improve overall blood status, liver function, kidney function. And acupuncturist.

So we might say that a practitioner of the healing arts works either with the parts of the body, that is your anatomy or they work with the energy that moves through those parts. That is we might say the neurological impulses from the brain down the cord out the nerves, the heart, lungs, in to the stomach, spleen, etcetera.

Glenn: Right.

Will: We would say that a chiropractor tends to work with the parts and the energy. That is addresses the alignment of the spine to ensure adequate nerve function. And we would say that an acupuncturist works strictly with the energy, right? So by Chinese principles, we would say what an acupuncturist does is tap in to certain points of the body to stimulate a change in the movement of energy what they call chi through the system. So other practitioners that work with non-traditional methods are homeopath. And again that’s the whole different discussion but homeopathy is the use of a very diluted extracts of natural substances that’s usually plant-based that stimulates physiological change.

A massage therapist, regular massage, it’s one of the best things you can do for your overall health to stimulate circulatory change, lymphatic drainage, relaxation, probably effects chemical releases in the way of maybe endorphins particularly with deep tissue work.

Glenn: Right.

Will: I think massages are really great way to contribute to overall wellness. So there are many practitioners who address things. I’m just touching the surface. There are other specialists who do how energy works. There are people who do strictly nutritional work in the form of a nutritionist. Though often, nutritionist are trained with pretty allopathic or standard western medical means. so I hope that adequately addresses but not overly addresses that question.

Glenn: It does. It does. Thanks Will. What I wanted to – and I think you answered this – was what else is there that would be useful to people because there’s so many names that get thrown around. I’m glad you defined the difference between naturopath and homeopath and some of the others because they seem a bit confusing or—

Will: They do.

Glenn: –blanketed under one sort of umbrella. And some people put chiropractic in there. Not all do but I wanted to kind of shift some light on that. And you’ve mentioned a lot of things and I think it really goes to show how deep your knowledge is about of all of these different techniques and methods that people can use to get fit and stay fit. When I say fit, I don’t mean necessarily muscular strength. I mean–

Will: Yeah.

Dr. Will Bar

Glenn: –all over body fitness with the 6 components of fitness. You are able to lift things which are able to move, you’re able to run or cycle and sustain activity over a longer period of time. And you mentioned nutrition. And certainly, we can go on and on and on about nutrition and the different ideas and your beliefs and what not.

Since we are talking about nutrition right now, we’re mentioning it is a good segue to what I wanted to ask you about next. And that is the soon to be famous Doctor Will Bar. So I’m sitting with the one and only Doctor Will here. And he has his own amateur cycling team which shows the name Doctor Will all over their bodies. And we go around and raised havoc in Portland, Oregon area at least. But I will like to step back to the very beginning of the invention of your bars. Why, how, what steps did it take to bring them from conception to where they are right now?

Will: You know I have an absolute ball with this whole Doctor Will Bar idea. And the reason this started is one, I love to cook. I love to tinker in the kitchen. And when I took up cycling, I started consuming massive calories as you will know. I’m sure you can relate to this.

Glenn: Oh yeah.

Will: I felt I was eating 5, 6, 8 times a day. I was eating Power bars, Cliff bars, Lara bars, Kind bars anything I could kind of get my hands on especially during race season when you’re training a 150-350 miles a week and racing on weekends or Monday nights always. And so I decided, I didn’t like the nourishment of the bars that I was consuming. Either I get really tired of the flavors or in reading the ingredients, I knew I can’t eat this as a staple food. There’s too much soy. There was too much fill. There’s too much wheat or there’s too much sugar. So I decided I would devise my own bar, just for me. It was not intended to be a commercial entity.

So I tinkered for probably 6 months before I came up with a recipe that I would really love. And I would take it with me to group rides. I would give it to people because I love it. I ate it between patients. I ate it as a lunch. I ate it every single morning for breakfast. It became my staple food. And since 2005, I’ve eaten between 5 and 8 bars a day. That is my staple food. I eat it every single day for breakfast. I eat it for a mid to late morning snack between patients. I often eat it as a lunch and as a mid-afternoon snack. I always eat it before rides, during rides, before and during races. And as I gave it to people, virtually everyone who tried it said, “Oh my god, Will. That’s the best bar I ever had.”

Then I had someone with a severe case of hypoglycemia who is in an elite athlete, who I gave a bar to, and she went for a 60 mile run, called me afterward and said, “What is with that bar you gave me?” I said, “What do you mean?” She said, “I got hypoglycemia my entire running career.” And she was really particular about her dietary intake, a collegiately-ranked runner, nationally collegiately-ranked runner. She said “I ran 60 miles on one bar. I’ve never done that my entire running career.” And I suspected I might be on to something as it relates to blood sugar stabilization.

Glenn: Yeah.

Will: So I started supplying her the bars. And she started reporting to me some pretty miraculous results. Then I handed them to a type 1 diabetic and some dependent diabetics, said “Would you try this bar and see what it does to your blood sugar?” A week later, he reported, it totally stabilize the sugar. Again, I suspected I was on to something. And since then, I’ve given to many type 2 diabetics but even some type 1 diabetics who regularly monitor blood sugars said, “Oh my god, this bar stabilizes my sugar.” And virtually everyone who tried and said, “I cannot believe how good this bar is.” So that leads me into a kind of a separate discussion about why I chose the ingredients in the bar.

Glenn: Well, I wanted to know that. Yeah, please.

Will: Yeah.

Glenn: Yes, please tell us why you chose what you did.

Will: So we are all led to believe that a low-fat diet is a good idea.

Glenn: Yeah.

Will: That a low-fat diet lowers cholesterol, lowers incidence of heart disease. And we were led to believe that because initially of a study done right after World War II by a doctor of physiology by the name of Ancel Keys. He theorize, he hypothesize that a high fat diet explained the high incidence of cardiovascular disease: heart attacks, stroke, angina, etcetera. So he studied 22 countries. And he analyzed the incidence of heart disease and the intake of fats in their diets. He concluded… Actually, what he really did is he eliminated all but 6 countries from his study because 6 countries from that study did show a connection between a high fat diet and high incidence of cardiovascular disease but the remainder 16 countries with high fat diet had very low incidence of heart disease so he threw those countries out of his study.

Glenn: Wow.

Will: And what he concluded, what he told us was that sure enough, a high fat diet causes heart disease. And as a result of that study, the medical community started teaching its patients through media, through written material and through direct consultation that a high-fat diet was bad for your heart. The recent analysis of this study show that that was absolutely not true that there were 16 countries that had the exact opposite indication from that study. In other words, there are a lot of factors that cause cardiovascular disease other than diet, amount of stress, toxicity, exposure to toxicity and stress within your work environment, your societal norms, et cetera, and the other factors in your diet; for example , foods that regularly cause your blood sugar and therefore your insulin releases to shoot up through the roof. I eat carbohydrates.

So I started with the idea that increasing essential fatty acids in the diet would actually be a good idea to help regulate blood sugar and therefore insulin releases. So it really helped me to understand that. I have to back up again.

Glenn: Okay.

Will: When you eat, your blood sugar goes up. Your blood sugar should always remain within a certain range. Let’s say between 75 and a 100.

Glenn: Right.

Will: When you eat certain foods, your blood sugar goes up really fast. When it goes up really fast and really high, your brain panics. That’s not good for you. That’s not good for your brain. That’s not good for your kidneys, your blood vessels, your eyes, et cetera. So you have to regulate that elevating blood sugar. And you do that by releasing insulin. Insulin lowers your blood sugar might cause in cells to take up and burn more sugar.

Will: But they can only do that so fast. After that, insulin will cause you to produce fat out of your blood sugar. Certain fruits cause your blood sugar shoot up fast and high, particularly of course, sugar, sweets, breads, pastas, cereals, cookies, candies, crackers are included in that. Right, carbohydrate.

Glenn: Right.

Will: The less refined the carbohydrate, the better – meaning really high fiber carbohydrate is relatively okay for regulating blood sugar response. But fatty acids combined with carbohydrates prevent a rapid elevation of your blood sugar. So I started with flax seeds and milled it so you can digest it, so you can absorb the essential fatty acids in it. Again, I must express that we really need two types of essential fatty acids, Omega 6 and Omega 3. We get Omega 6’s from olive oils, safflower, canola, sunflower, soy, corn, peanut, hazel and all the nuts and all the vegetable oils. And we get plenty of those. Omega 3 fatty acids, we get from basically from 3 things: fish, flax, mollusk. We should get a 1 or 2 time Omega 6 to Omega 3 fatty acid ratio in our diet. In most countries, they do. But in the United States, we know we get 20-30 times more Omega 6 than Omega 3.

Glenn: Wow.

Will: And we know that that imbalance promotes inflammation, autoimmune disorders like rheumatoid arthritis, gouty arthritis that leads, promotes that, and many other things like allergies, asthma, et cetera. But it also increases the development of degenerative changes in brain and nervous system, promotes inflammation, increases the incidence of elevated cholesterol, elevated LDL’s. So the goal of getting more fish, flax and walnuts is to get that proportion of Omega 6 to Omega 3 back in check, in balance, to reduce inflammation, improve brain and nervous system function, improve cardiovascular function. So I started with flax seed. In each bar, there’s about a heaping tablespoon of Omega 3 or a flax seed and therefore, 12 to 15 hundred milligrams of Omega 3 fatty acids.

Glenn: Wow.

Will: So that’s really at the core of the bar, the Omega 3. So by combining relatively high fatty acid content with some carbohydrate and then added protein, we really regulate the blood sugar with that bar and that’s the whole goal. That’s why I eat massive numbers of bars over the last 7-8 years has actually resulted in reduction in my cholesterol levels, a reduction in my LDL’s, an elevation of my HDLs. And amazingly, I’m not even a little bit tired of them.

Glenn: You know I eat 1-2 everyday also. I find them to be really good between clients and between classes. I drive from one place to another. I find it really good, healthy snack. In the past, I’ve eaten things like peanut butter or almonds or walnuts or other types of bars long ago. But I’m pretty sensitive to blood sugar so I’m easily hypoglycemic. And I experienced the blood sugar spike and also the crash right away. So I’ve known that I’m sensitive to this. And it was about in 97, I finally started balancing my macronutrients, my carbs, proteins, fat with each other rather than just eating whatever I wanted like a big plate of pasta which is about the worse thing.

Will: About the worse.

Glenn: About the worse thing that I can do. I mean maybe a bag of them and it could be worse. But not to discourage you but any kind of candy would probably a little bit worse but not much. And so I learned in the late 90’s that I can balance the macronutrients and feel great afterwards. I had sustained energy. I didn’t have the spike and therefore, I didn’t have to crash.

I remember one time I ate a plate of pasta. And it was probably half hour later, I found myself in bed just lying there feeling like a ton of breads was on top of me. I had less than zero energy. I felt like I was in the negative energy. I felt like I was sinking down into the core of the earth. I was so exhausted.

Will: Oh yeah, so burned out.

Glenn: Yeah, completely burned out. And I have eaten a lot of bars. As an athlete, I eat a lot of bars. and I found that your bars are fantastic. I don’t crash. I don’t have a spike. But I can eat in between meals on a totally empty stomach. I can eat one on a long distance ride and not have a crash and really not even notice my energy level change other than the fact that “Hey. I’m not hungry. And I can think.  And I have energy.” It’s not something that’s really noticeable.

So let’s see. Can you tell us when you started the bars? Around what date or what year anyways? How long ago?

Will: Yes, so I started making them in my kitchen. Again, it was really just for the sole purpose of devising a staple food for myself and for my two daughters. In 2005 throughout 2005-6 and early 7, it had reached the point where people, so many people were asking me could they buy a batch of bars. And I would say yes. And I would make bars in my kitchen and eventually, every single evening. That’s what I devoted my 2-3 hour of free time, “free time–”

Glenn: Right.

Will: And that was making batches of bars. I cut them into individual bars, wrap and seal thing, put them in a gallon zip locked bag. People would come over. Pay me 40 bucks. It reached to the point where eventually I felt like I was a dealer. I’m sure my neighbors were suspicious. People were coming over. 5 minutes later, leave with a bag under their arm.

So by 2007, I realized I can’t do this anymore. I can’t keep up. So by the urging of many people who said “Will, you got to take this to the market place.” I had the name Doctor Will Bar and I didn’t name it. Some of the fans of the bar named it that. I had it trademarked. I took the recipe along with the non-disclosure agreement to a bakery, a little confection company that told me “Okay, we’ll make the bars.” But after a year and a half, they couldn’t keep up with the bars. They had no capacity for packaging. They didn’t have the time.

So I then took the bars to Oregon state university, an extension of that university called the food innovation center. They analyzed the bar, loved the bar, referred me to a larger entity, a company in Gresham called the Candy Basket and the Short Hill Taffy. And then they devised a protocol for making the bar. They were capable of wrapping it professionally. And I took it to a whole new level, packaging boxes. And they began to produce a bar that was just absolutely excellent. And people namely patients and friends started buying them by the bulk load. And the rest is history. But it’s been an amazing learning process about packaging and design and FDA regulations and having to deal with every little new ounce of having a product on the market, and having to do with insurance and trade marking and patenting and bar coding. It’s been an absolute ball.

So now we’re carried in multiple retail venues. We’re sold in big gyms in Portland. We’re sold at a grocery store chain here in Portland called New Seasons. We’re the market of choice. We’re about to get into whole foods which is you know a fairly large development. So I did not realize when I started this just how far it would go.

But the truth is it is infectiously tasty had the bar performs really well not just for athletes. Kids even love it. Teenagers love it, the pickiest group there is. And it’s fairly universal. The people that try this bar, they go “Oh my god. That’s the best bar I ever had.” And so it would seem inevitable that this is really going to catch on.

Glenn: Yeah, like I said I really love it. I love the flavor. But most of all, I love how it works. It’s a very functional bar. And it taste good but it definitely works. It serves its purpose and it doesn’t give me a sugar spike or crash. In fact, it tastes so good it’s really tempting to eat two in a row. But as one person told me, eat one and get a 10 minutes and trust that it will work. If you’re still hungry in 10 minutes, go ahead have another. But most of the time, I’m not. And i just forget about it because I no longer hungry.

So Will, I have one last question for you.

Will: Uhum.

Glenn: And I know you’re a fitness fanatic. You like to exercise. You go to the gym. You ride your bike. I’m sure you do a lot of other things. What do you do when you’re in the dumps and you know you need to exercise and you either just don’t feel your best or you’re just stressed or too sleepy. You know exercise is the best thing for you to do. You know that would make you feel better but you really don’t want to. How do you… What do you use to motivate you in times like that?

Will: Wow. What a great question. Maybe because I’ve been a fitness enthusiast for 25 years, I’ve learned to overcome my own excuses. But for one thing I do is I’ll say “I am way too tired to go to the gym. I am way too sleepy to get on a bike.” I say to myself “Okay fine then. Just do it for 15 minutes. Okay. I’m just gonna go to the gym. And I’m gonna do a really easy work out for half hour. I’m gonna get on a bike in front of a video or while watching a movie. And I’m only gonna do it for 10 minutes.” If I can just do it for 10 minutes, that would be good. And literally without fail, if I put in 10 or 15 minutes on a bike or on the gym or on stationary bike or in the pool, I feel so much better in 10 or 15 minutes. It literally turns me around. So I tell myself, I only got to do a little. And if I do a little, I usually end up doing a moderate amount or even a lot. And therefore for me, it’s just that little boost. And it always changes my outlook and the workout itself.

Glenn: I only got to do a little. I love it.

Will: Uhum.

Glenn: Have you ever felt worse after workout than before?

Will: One time when I crash my bike. Other than that, never. I never ever feel worse every single time I work out. I go oh I cannot believe how much better I feel. I was exhausted. I was sleepy. I was ready for a nap. I was ready to hit the rack. And virtually, every single time, it transforms me. It’s the thing that keeps me going, the knowledge that if I just do a little, I will feel so much better. And it literally works without fail except when I crash my bike.

Glenn: There was that one time.

Will: Yeah.

Glenn: Well, thank you Will. I really, really appreciate you taking the time and sharing your enthusiasm, your passion for exercise and your bars. If you would, please tell us how people can get a hold of you if they would like more information or would like to use you as a chiropractor or would like to buy your bars.

Will: Well, bars as you might imagine are available online at doctorwillbar.com. I have a clinic at Portland in which I have a naturopath, acupuncturist, 7 massage therapists and an associate chiropractor. And the name of our clinic is Corbett Hill Wellness Center. We have a website, corbettwellnesscenter.com C O R B E T T.

But you know what Glenn, I just want to tell you. The idea of being a life coach as it relates to fitness and diet is its genius because I honestly… I believe we are in an epidemic. No, I don’t believe we are. We know we are. We’re in an epidemic of diabetes, obesity, what’s called metabolic syndrome which is kind of like disc insulinemia — where insulin is not being regulated and it’s from our diets, our excessive carbohydrate consumption, our lack of exercise. Every single person, you effect by virtue of being their consultant is someone who’s life you might have just saved. literally I mean that. Literally, it might sound dramatic but I’m dead serious about that. This is the kind of thing I believe that 9 out of 10 Americans should do to prolong their lives and to live a life with quality. Because the idea is not to hit 55 or 60 and then slowly burn out, stop moving, become inactive until you’re 75 or 80 and then pass away relatively miserable, stiff, sore, achy, tired, diseased on multiple medications.

Glenn: Uhum.

Will: The idea of intervening in someone’s life when they’re 30 or 40 or 50 and being a consultant to them, it’s really huge, Glenn. I applaud you for trying to… You’re fighting an uphill battle. I think you literally can change lives honestly.

Glenn: Well, thank you, Will. I appreciate it. And I feel the same way. I really hate to see people unfit and unwell because of their lifestyle choices. And it’s you know I like to have fun. You like to have fun. Everybody likes to have fun but when our enjoyment or our rebelliousness starts affecting our health negatively and then we live the last 15-20-30 years of our life miserable, that’s not fun.

Will: Right. And we want to have fun when were 70 and for that matter, 80. And the truth is ignoring what it takes to stay well is ridiculous. You know there’s an old saying that says if you’re body wears out, where are you going to live.

Glenn: I love that one. It’s so true.

Will: Healthy body. Healthy mind. And for all of you who have people out there, you can think of it that way to where’s your brain going to live if your body’s worn out.

Will: Yeah.

Glenn: Anyways, thank you again, Will. I really appreciate this interview and I’ll be seeing you out there on the road.

Will: Right on. My pleasure. I’m glad to do it.




Dr. Will can be found most days at the Corbett Hill Wellness Center in Portland, OR.

I love the Dr Will Bar. He created a bar that not only tastes GREAT, and is super good for you, plus it works.

These bars are packed full of healthy fats: nuts and seeds; and dried fruit. Best of all, whether you are in the middle of an activity or sitting at your desk, the Dr Will Bar will give you sustained energy WITHOUT that sugar crash that is often associated with eating other bars and high carb snacks.

Dr Will Bar

If you would like to save 10% on your next online order of bars, enter the coupon code “LIVEFIT“.

My whole family loves these bars. I also find them to be a perfect recovery food after a hard workout or bike race. It’s easy on the stomach and satisfies me for a few hours until my next meal. It is the PERFECT think to maximize the “window of opportunity” of muscle recovery.

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The Dr Will Bar is also perfect for a mini meal. Take them on business trips, on the plane, keep some in your car, purse, wherever. Hold off hunger till you can get a healthy meal.



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